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The "One God Further" Argument: A Complete Breakdown

LM
Lyndon Marais
Secular Toolkit Founder
December 25, 2025
6 min read
One of the most elegant arguments in the secular toolkit. Here is how it works, why it is so effective, and how to deploy it in conversation.

The "One God Further" Argument: A Complete Breakdown

The "One God Further" argument is one of the most elegant and accessible arguments in our arsenal. Popularized by Richard Dawkins, it cuts through layers of theological complexity and lands a clean philosophical punch. If you have ever struggled to articulate why you reject religious claims, this framework gives you a clear, concise way to do it. Here is how it works, why it is effective, and how to use it.

The Core Argument

The argument is simple:
"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."
That is it. One sentence that reframes the entire conversation. The power lies in what it reveals: every religious person is already an atheist. They reject thousands of gods. Thor, Zeus, Ra, Vishnu, Quetzalcoatl, Baal, Marduk, Osiris. The list is endless. For every single one of these deities, billions of people lived and died in sincere belief. They prayed, sacrificed, felt divine presence, and structured their entire civilizations around these gods. And your religious interlocutor dismisses all of them without a second thought. We simply apply the same standard of evidence to one more god.

Why This Argument Works

1. It Exposes Inconsistent Skepticism

Religious people are often excellent skeptics when it comes to other religions. A Christian can spot the man-made origins of Scientology instantly. A Muslim can deconstruct Hindu mythology without breaking a sweat. They apply critical thinking, historical analysis, and demands for evidence with razor precision. The "One God Further" argument simply asks: Why stop there? It forces them to confront the uncomfortable fact that they already possess all the tools needed to reject their own religion. They just refuse to use them on their own beliefs.

2. It Sidesteps Theological Rabbit Holes

Debates about religion often devolve into arcane theological arguments: the ontological argument, Kalam cosmological argument, fine-tuning, and so on. These can be countered, but they require specialized knowledge and can bore everyone involved. This argument bypasses all of that. You are not debating the existence of a generic "god." You are pointing out that they have already rejected thousands of specific gods using the exact reasoning you use to reject theirs.

3. It Highlights the Accident of Geography

If someone were born in ancient Egypt, they would worship Ra. Born in Viking Scandinavia? Odin. Born in modern-day Saudi Arabia? Almost certainly Muslim. Born in rural India? Likely Hindu. The religion someone holds is overwhelmingly determined by where and when they were born. This argument subtly raises that point. If the "one true god" is real, why does belief correlate so perfectly with geography rather than evidence?

How to Use It in Conversation

The Setup

Wait for them to express incredulity at your atheism. Common openings include:
  • "How can you not believe in anything?"
  • "Don't you feel something is missing?"
  • "How do you explain the universe?"
  • The Pivot

    Respond with a question, not a statement. Questions are less confrontational and make them do the thinking. Example:
    "Do you believe in Zeus?"
    They will say no.
    "What about Thor? Vishnu? Ra? The thousands of gods humans have worshipped throughout history?"
    They will dismiss these as myths, dead religions, or cultural artifacts.
    "Right. You reject all of those gods. You probably find it easy to see how those religions arose from human imagination and cultural needs. You have no trouble seeing the lack of evidence for them."
    Pause. Let it land.
    "I just apply the exact same reasoning to one more god. Yours."

    Handling Common Objections

  • "But my god is different. There is evidence for my god." What evidence do you have that would not also apply to Zeus in the eyes of an ancient Greek? They had sacred texts, miracles, personal experiences, and philosophical arguments too. Every religion claims evidence. Why do you find your evidence compelling but dismiss theirs?
  • "Those were primitive people. We know better now." The Egyptians had advanced mathematics and built the pyramids. The Greeks invented democracy and formal logic. They were not stupid. They were just as convinced of their gods as you are of yours. Future generations might look back at your beliefs the same way you look back at theirs.
  • "My god is the only one that makes logical sense." Every religion claims logical coherence. Muslims think Christianity is irrational (the Trinity, a god who dies, etc.). Hindus find Abrahamic religions simplistic. You think your god 'makes sense' because you were raised in that framework. An outsider sees the same inconsistencies you see in other religions.
  • "My religion is based on historical events, not myths." So were the others. Romans recorded the miracles of their emperors. Egyptians documented the powers of their pharaohs. Every religion wraps itself in what it considers historical fact. The question is: would you accept the same quality of evidence for a miracle in another religion?
  • The Deeper Point

    This argument is not just a rhetorical trick. It points to something philosophically important: there is no neutral reason to privilege one religion over another. If you grew up Hindu and examined Christianity from the outside, you would find a religion that claims:
  • A god impregnated a human woman
  • That god's son was executed and came back from the dead
  • Eating bread and wine literally transforms them into flesh and blood
  • An apocalyptic final battle is coming
  • From the outside, this is indistinguishable from any other mythology. The only reason someone finds it plausible is acculturation, the slow process of hearing it repeated as truth from childhood.

    The Graveyard of Gods

    Here is a sobering thought: there are more dead gods than living ones. Marduk ruled Babylon for millennia. Osiris was worshipped for over 3,000 years. The Norse gods dominated northern Europe. The Aztec gods demanded (and received) human hearts. All gone. All dismissed as mythology by modern believers without a moment of cognitive dissonance. The current major religions are historically recent. They are not the endpoint. They are just what happens to be popular right now. A thousand years from now, scholars might study Christianity and Islam the way we study the cult of Mithras: interesting, influential, and utterly dead.

    Summary: Your Quick Reference

  • Setup: Wait for them to question your non-belief
  • Pivot: Ask if they believe in Zeus, Thor, or Ra
  • Core point: They already reject thousands of gods using skepticism and lack of evidence
  • Landing: You just apply that same reasoning to one more god
  • Key phrase: "I am just using your logic more consistently"
  • Final Thought

    This argument will not deconvert anyone on the spot. But that is not the goal. The goal is to plant a seed of doubt. The goal is to make them realize that the tools they use to dismiss other religions work just as well on their own. Once someone sees that their religion is not special, that it occupies the same epistemic space as Zeus worship, the spell begins to weaken. That is all we can ask for. One crack in the wall. One god further.

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